There are at least three possibilities And I'm not sure which is the most conservative the first possibility is that We don't understand how the world is constructed and that in fact there is a parallel universe running alongside of ours full of elves who use a language to make objects and Then why you can burst through to this place on this one draw you know then that raises each explanation raises a lot of questions then the other possibility is This is the Jungian Possibility and Jungian I can't remember which one it was but one of the later things he talks about these elves Because of the Kibiri the Kibiri are the alchemical children that appear in Act 3 of Faust that Jung spent a lot of time on these alchemical Kibiri and the question of the homunculus and He says at one place, I think he says he describes them as autonomous psychic Elements that have escaped from the control of the ego This is a weird way to go about it I mean, it's probably an accurate description, but how much does it tell us you know? It means that the psyche is to be visualized as a half gallon of mercury And when we throw it on the floor the mercury balls up and spreads everywhere and each ball of mercury you look at by By gad it has a little face looking back at you. That's because mercury is a mirrored surface You're looking at your own psyche shattered into thousands of pieces around you another possibility and one I leaned toward for years And I still lean toward because I've noticed the radical nature of your explanation Diminishes with the distance since the last time you smoked a DMT The longer it's been the more likely you are to have some humdrum notion that you can pour it into So the humdrum notion that I settled on was well clearly these are just extraterrestrials This is they don't come in silver ships demanding to be taken to the National Defense Agency This is how they come why they come this way who knows they're coming through mind Mind is the medium in which they travel where do they come from? Who knows can it even be located in the Newtonian space-time matrix? I mean, what do you want here a star catalog number would that satisfy you? And then finally and I think I've exceeded my number of possible explanations And then finally the explanation which is my current favorite It just it's a little disturbing And I haven't quite figured out what to do with it, but I have a sense We're on the right track here. The reason the DMT space feels so peculiar both alien and excruciatingly Familiar is Because these things in this other place Represent what I call an ecology of souls This place is the one place you never thought you were going to make a visit to and come back to Chat it around the coffee maker this they're dead. That's who these things are This is the realm of the dead Well, I have to confess in all of my psychedelic voyaging and idea Lingering and all of that. I never was able to go that far to reach that far in my imagination It sort of had to be presented to me But if you go to shamans worldwide and Talk to them about their spirit helpers and say, you know, what's the deal with this? You know, who are these things? They said well, these are the ancestors didn't you know, these are the ancestors? It's perfectly cut and dried and normal I Had occasion I won't use his name to embarrass him But I had occasion to expose a very well-known Tibetan high mucky muck to DMT and He said after he took it like a man said afterwards That is the lesser life That is the lesser life and if any of you are students of Mahayana Buddhism You know that the lesser lights are the lights you see at the edge of the Bardo as you start in to the 42-day Process of dying you encounter the lesser lights. This guy was saying to me you cannot go further in the in the body and have any Expectation of returning in other words Once you see the lesser lights you have stretched the umbilicus to matter to the breaking point If you go one step further It's eternity for you. Well, I don't know how I feel about this That the head type I've had to then ask myself The head type is that me? Do you actually encounter your dead? Soul is there a dimension where you are both simultaneously dead and alive both simultaneously? witness and observer I don't know, but I certainly think that if we're going to use a conservative Explanation for these things the only can the only theory more conservative than that. They are dead people is The theory that says that they are nothing whatsoever and that just simply will not serve I think it would come as a tremendous surprise to 20th century Civilization if orthogonal to all our expectations of space flight and virtual reality and all this Techno schmuck no stuff that we're lining up in front of us. There would be a broadside From 90 degrees out of the unexpected and it would be a doorway Swinging open into the realms beyond organic existence. I Resisted this fiercely, but I just don't know what we're going to do with these DMT creatures if we don't you know try to find a rational explanation and the Any rational explanation will be exotic because the facts of the matter are Exotic those of you who have not had this experience who are sitting there thinking it would never happen to me You're full of it It will happen to you. This isn't this doesn't require the willful suspension of disbelief this doesn't require a pure heart or dietary Description. No, this is part of the human birthright and the fact that we deny the existence of a non-human Entity intellect e intelligence on this planet is just part of our heritage from rationalism and you know, you don't have to take it very seriously because rationalism the Philosophy that gives us permission to deny the invisible world You know who founded the philosophy of rational materialism? any takers Aristotle was early. I think I'd give credit to Rene Descartes for modern materialism and rationalism well You know who told Rene Descartes to found? rationalism and materialism an Angel Are you ready for this? This is a suppressed. This is a suppressed history Episode in the history of human thoughts. Here are the facts folks 1619 Rene Descartes is 21 years old. He's a young Frenchman in search of adventure He joins the Habsburg army that is going off to Prague to lay siege to Prague to put down an alchemical revolt there they Kick butt on these alchemists win the war and they're on their way back to France and in September 1619 this French army camped at Ulm in southern Germany Some of you may know all as Einstein's hometown and in fact that figures in our story Obliquely as you will see this French army camps at all and Rene Descartes hits the hay and in the middle of the night an angel appears to this young man in the radiance of his rooms and Says the mastery of nature is to be achieved through number and measure Modern science is founded folks right there right then by an angel So how you know how far away are the informing voices? How how rational is? Rationalism how material is materialism? All of you must know I'm sure the famous story of Kekulé the the German chemist Kekulé who discovered the benzene ring he was Struggling with this problem in physical chemics chemistry could not figure it out fell asleep in his study and the Ouroboros serpent appeared before him in his dream and took its tail in its mouth and He came out of a sound sleep and said I've got it. He walked to the blackboard. He drew the first benzene ring Angelic intervention intervention from the unconscious so I my The point of all this is to suggest That human history is completely interpenetrated by the peculiar the non-human that which has intentionality and affection for Mankind for humanity and this is what shamans call to their aid This is how the curing is done. It's done through these spirit helpers they're called elemental and So far as I know unionism is the only Modern intellectual position where you can even raise this issue without having a net dropped over you I mean, I mean, this is absolutely forbidden by the modern worldview And yet it lies very very close to the surface in our culture I mean as an example of how close to the surface it lies in our culture Consider for a moment Santa Claus What's this about? Santa Claus is the master of the elves The elves that he is master of are demon artificers They make toys for the world's children in their vast Underground toy shops and where are these underground toy shops at the North Pole? I don't have to tell a room full of unions that the North Pole is the axis Mundi Yggdrasil the magic world - the center of the mandala What are the colors of? Santa Claus red and white the colors of Amanita muscaria Absolutely. What is the titular a animal of Santa Claus? Reindeer reindeer are very central to the Amanita muscaria cult because reindeer Eat the mushroom and then excrete their urine and this is thought to be a cleaner and easier way to take the Mushroom than to take it on the so-called first pass The second pass is after the reindeer have had it you know just an anecdotal aside if you're ever in the Yakut basin one of the great perils of the intoxicated Amanita user is to crawl out of the yurt in the middle of the night to take a leak in the snow and Before you can back off the reindeer come and knock you headlong Because they want to get to this Amanita flavored snow So here is Santa Claus right in the center of Our culture and when you take it apart all the motifs are there the demon artificers the elves the cosmic axis The magical flight. I mean, it's a beautiful example of the preservation of pagan psychedelic use into a modern context What can we say about this? Well, I know the one thing one more thing I wanted to say about it That this program that these tykes are Pushing is a language skills Program and we don't know how long people have been bursting into this place This may be the source of language You know, how did where did language come from? We learned it from elves in hyperspace this is as good a Possibility as any other and this is still ongoing this language reformation program they want us to activate our language forming ability and language in the DMT flash as I said this morning, it's something beheld Syntax is something potentially to be looked at not to be heard and We don't understand this because for us language is something that you hear We can't imagine a language that you see But have you ever noticed the way in which we preserve? clarity of intention in Language with verbal metaphors we say I see what you mean He painted a picture. It means we unconsciously believe that truth will be beheld and Some of you who are students of the ancient literature may know philo judaic Hellenistic Alexandrine Jew absolute contemporary of Christ born before died after and in one of his treatises on the logos, which he was always talking about philo judaic presents an etymology of the word Israel Talking about the word Israel and he says Israel means He who sees God This is the meaning of the word Israel and then he goes on to say This he who sees God he's talking about that and he says what would be the more perfect logos? Now I should assume most of you know The logos was an informing voice a voice in the head, which was the sine qua non of Alexandrian spirituality Socrates had it Plato had it the logos so philo judaic Asks, what would be the more perfect logos and then he answers his own question He says the more part the more perfect logos would go from being beheld I'm sorry would go from being heard to being beheld without ever crossing over a noticeable moment of transition Well, that is precisely what you encounter in deep psychedelic experiences and the DMT flash you behold the logos in the In the initiation of the experience you don't behold it you hear it it sounds in Michael Harner's wonderful phrase like the sound of rushing water or like the sound of Tinkling bells and it's very far away and then it begins to come closer You can you can you begin to form a picture of it in your mind the way you would form a picture of a Nepali? Marching band if you just heard it about a half mile away and the unpa pa and it's getting bigger Coming closer. This is the elf Parade and when it finally comes into view it actually goes without ever passing over a noticeable moment of Transition from being heard to being seen through the phenomenon of approach You hear it before you see it Then you see it far away Then you see it very close and when you see it very close who cares what it sounds like because you're seeing it This more perfect logos is what the tykes the spiritual helpers want to teach and I think that it's Important to spend a little time on this because I think this would have tremendous historical impact upon our situation if we could by hook or by crook create a More visible logos a language which could be seen You've probably all Considered at some time or another what would telepathy be like and I think most people answer that question by thinking that Telepathy would be for me to hear what you think But how would it be if telepathy were for me to see what you mean? That's telepathy if it puts you in the other guy's shoes if you Stand in the other person's shoes You are the other person to have a person's point of view is to be That person in regard to that single Datum of experience so I've Spent time with virtual reality people and all these technical folks because I think that visual language is something that wants to be born and It may be that it is can be Technologically coaxed into existence that we're gonna have to wear goggles and have fast computer or it may be that it can be Physiologically coaxed into existence There may be drugs which shift the processing of language from being an auditory phenomenon to being a visible phenomenon Ayahuasca is an excellent candidate for this If you spend time with the ayahuasca taking populations in the Amazon There's great stress in these populations on acquiring what's called an Icaro Icaro means magical song and the Icaro is a Spontaneous champ like song which comes to you during the intoxication the thing that's interesting about these Icaros is that they are critiqued as Visual objects not as Sound people never say of an Icaro It sounded beautiful They always say it looked lovely and then people will say but there should have been more blue This kind of thing it's clearly being criticized as a visual Modality. 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